Tecmo super bowl is still the greatest football game of all time
I wish these sports games came out less frequent, about every two or three years with a major paid update/DLC (game engine update/new modes/new teams or city changes) with a yearly/season/preseaon stats/rooster updates.
Blitz the League games are awesome. I still go back and play from time to time.
Heck, I remember how we used to have tons of different sport games franchises during the 8/16/32 bit eras. We used to have tons of different Basketball, Football, Soccer or Baseball games that were a lot of fun to play. Now, pretty much only EA games are available, with a few exceptions in the case of NBA2K or PES. It used to be better, I think.
I still have my copy of College Hoops 2k8 for the PS3 which rosters are still being updated for. I also have NCAA Football 14 which I believe is still the last college sports game released due to issue of profiting off of a college player's likeness without the player receiving any kind of profit. Although there was a PS4 commercial than ran with current college coaches.
I think another part of the issue is that there's only so much you can do to differentiate a sports game from the pack. Sure, they gameplay engine will vary from game to game, but the fundamental mechanics of a football game are going to be similar among all games. There's no need for a dozen football games with broadly similar gameplay, in much the same way most fans don't see the need for competing leagues within an actual sport. That's why the "fun and silly" sports games Ian mentions manage to work so well alongside the mainstream titles, they have more leeway with the actual gameplay.
One comment said real gamers dont like sports games, really they do, but its not this trash of the last 10-12 years. Like Ea and $60 for a roster update, only thing that really is different is adding some irrelevant content to keep it legal. Ive never see a series of games so stale as the madden series after the license bs.
MLB The Show is one of the most irksome exclusive titles right now. MLB2k was an enjoyable series for me, but I don't remember why, they stopped making them, and now Xbox doesn't have a realistic baseball game.
Throw any video game topic at Ian and the dude just knows his stuff. Well done!
Forget realistic sports games, i'm waiting for more Mario Strikers & Tennis
Just watch the EPL for soccer, pick a team to follow. It's as easy as any other sport.
Wow, TO in an Eagles uniform.
The NFL and other leagues have every right to do what they want with their property, but I do miss the variety we used to have. The Blitz series was a lot of fun.
Talking about football games. Player have the ball in the hand hmm.
I never got American football and especially not the games, but basketball is one of Americas greatest exports and the latest games are just as good.
NFL 2K5 will always be my favorite Football game.
All Pro Football 2K8 is still my favorite football game by far.
When you said "alternative sports games," my mind instantly went to Blitz the League.
Pat, you don't follow every team in college football. I'm pretty sure the only people that do that are the analysts. You follow your team, some of your conference, and the good teams in the country that year. On a given Saturday I will watch Alabama, the big or consequential matchups in the conference, and the big or consequential matchups in the country that week. Normally this is somewhere between 3 and 5 games a week.
Please get the facts straight
NFLPA wanted an exclusive license. It paid more.
EA paid the most they got it.
Yeah it's nuts. Pro Evo has been the outstanding football (soccer) game for the previous 3 iterations, with the most Sports Game awards and highest review scores compared to FIFA, but FIFA will always outsell FIFA because it has the presentation and the licenses.
Exclusivity is to the detriment of gaming and the games themselves, but that business and there's nothing we can do about it unfortunately.
Yeah, FIFA is the WEAKEST exclusive deal, by far. With both that and PES, which is better–as oppose to far worse, likes"Blitz: The League" and the PS3 "reboot" of NFL Blitz, complete with no hitting people after the play or out of bounds. I'd rather play Blitz 2002 on a PS2 with component out, even with the load and save times, because MIDWAY actually counts after-play hits and keeps the high score, for all sorts of cool high scores in categories like that. Blitz is FOR arcade-style, unrealistic, pound 'em after the play, play. Madden is its antithesis, and while Blitz is the most fun, Tecmo Bowl is the coolest, and Madden is the most drainingly-realistic, although I know they have put in some more "fun" modes. The thankfully-cancelled "NFL Street" just plain sucked, and it did so especially as an "alternative to Blitz."
It was always better to have Midway's arcade lineup available, especially when you just wanted to pick-up-and-play, in less than an hour, and I was so totally pissed, when EA bought the licenses to most–if not all–of the leagues, including the NCAA sports.
That's why I like PES so much. Its graphics are better, its play mechanics can be more advanced, its smoother, and it just plain beats FIFA, to me. I'd take PES 2014 over this year's FIFA.– and I essentially have, given that I play that one most and don't have/won't get any new FIFAs, that I can imagine. Thank god so few people (myself included) really care that much about whom the golfers are, or the tennis players (except Serena, of course, and Mac, when playing classic characters.
EA ruined sports games as much as they did their "reboot" if Battlefront, and will surely do, again, with all the microtransactions. It was all looking so good, until that all came out. I knew they'd fuck it up. I wish neither I nor my friends bought (different copies of) One-on-One or any of the EA games, if I'd known they'd go on to suck so hard, at so much — sports being the biggest genre.
If you have a PSP and like golf, get PangYa, however you can (digital or physical, but even physical is really cheap, without being on sale). PangYa is the best golf game, because magic!
FIFA soccer is one of the most popular video games in Europe
Screw all these modern football games. Im sticking with Tecmo Super Bowl.
NBA hangtime baby, those dunks were so awesome for that time period
Not many sports games because real gamers don't like sports. They are usually mutually exclusive interests.
What is the official game for toe wrestling?
I always wished in NBA jam that you could print out the pictures of your dunks when the took the little photos in game.
huh I was wondering what was happening to sport games good to know
Ya soccer is a nightmare to try and keep up with. You have so many quality leagues all across Europe and south america and MLS has really come into it's own now in the last few years. Then you have the champions league stuff that happens throughout every year. Throw on top of that the euro/world cup every other year and it's a mess.
Your best bet if you aren't content with just watching the big tournaments is still the English premier league (it's commentated in English and has a good chunk of the worlds best players spread throughout the clubs). Then just catch the big clubs from other leagues outside the UK whenever they pop up in the champions league.
There used to be tons of licensed sports series.
Interesting that Pat would mention Ken Griffey with the edit feature. All the players in the game were based on actual players. I used a Street and Smith magazine(There was no internet) to figure out the roster and I imputed in every player. After a while the battery quit holding the save. I did it 2 more times before I decided it wasn't worth the effort to have the roster when it would only hold for a few weeks after that.
RBI Baseball is absolute garbage.
That's why football games suck. Madden bought up the NFL exclusive back in 2005 because they couldn't handle the competition. It was really unfair sand the product sucks now.
Soccer is easy. Take English football.
You have 4 leagues (you have non-league too but ignore that for this purpose). Each league plays to find a winner – top is winner (and is promoted if they are in a lower league), bottom is relegated.
Then you have a League cup – every league team plays in it until there is a final winner.
Then there is usually a sponsored Cup.
Then you have an F.A. (Football Association) cup – same as above.
Then you have this (or something similar) for each country in Europe (and probably world wide – although I believe Norway or Sweden's promotion/relegation system is a thing of joy to behold).
Then you have the Champions League – the top 4 (or 5 but more later) of each top league in Europe plays each other in a league, then a knockout competition.
Then you have Europa League – 5 & 6 (or 6 & 7) position of each top league, plus teams that got knocked out early in the Champions League and F.A. Cup & League Cup winners go into this. League and then knockout. Winners go into next years Champions League (see above).
Then the Champions League winners play the Europa League winners in the Super Cup.
Then the winners of the Super Cup play in a group stage & knockout of the World Club Cup.
Then every few years you have the National Team European Championships – Qualification rounds, then League, then knockout.
Then every 4 years you have the National Team World Cup.
Then every other 4 years you have Olympic Soccer.
Thats not including the Coppa America or African Cup of Nations, Asia Cup etc…
See! Easy! But seriously – its easier on my brain having been brought up on it than NFC/AFC N.S.E.W., Conference East, Conference West gubbins! (before anyone says I know I mucked-up the competitions above, I couldn't be bothered looking them up!)
I believe licensing killed the MVP baseball series, and MVP Baseball 2005 might be my favorite sports game of all-time.
I went back and played madden 10 on the wii and was really fun and it had funny glitches with in 5 five minutes of playing it
They should bring back Track and Field or Daley Thompson's Decathlon.
Actually I'll just leave this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4cs6O5j32U
Tecmo super bowl is still the greatest football game of all time
I wish these sports games came out less frequent, about every two or three years with a major paid update/DLC (game engine update/new modes/new teams or city changes) with a yearly/season/preseaon stats/rooster updates.
Blitz the League games are awesome. I still go back and play from time to time.
Heck, I remember how we used to have tons of different sport games franchises during the 8/16/32 bit eras. We used to have tons of different Basketball, Football, Soccer or Baseball games that were a lot of fun to play. Now, pretty much only EA games are available, with a few exceptions in the case of NBA2K or PES. It used to be better, I think.
I still have my copy of College Hoops 2k8 for the PS3 which rosters are still being updated for. I also have NCAA Football 14 which I believe is still the last college sports game released due to issue of profiting off of a college player's likeness without the player receiving any kind of profit. Although there was a PS4 commercial than ran with current college coaches.
I think another part of the issue is that there's only so much you can do to differentiate a sports game from the pack. Sure, they gameplay engine will vary from game to game, but the fundamental mechanics of a football game are going to be similar among all games. There's no need for a dozen football games with broadly similar gameplay, in much the same way most fans don't see the need for competing leagues within an actual sport. That's why the "fun and silly" sports games Ian mentions manage to work so well alongside the mainstream titles, they have more leeway with the actual gameplay.
One comment said real gamers dont like sports games, really they do, but its not this trash of the last 10-12 years. Like Ea and $60 for a roster update, only thing that really is different is adding some irrelevant content to keep it legal. Ive never see a series of games so stale as the madden series after the license bs.
MLB The Show is one of the most irksome exclusive titles right now. MLB2k was an enjoyable series for me, but I don't remember why, they stopped making them, and now Xbox doesn't have a realistic baseball game.
Throw any video game topic at Ian and the dude just knows his stuff. Well done!
Forget realistic sports games, i'm waiting for more Mario Strikers & Tennis
Just watch the EPL for soccer, pick a team to follow. It's as easy as any other sport.
Wow, TO in an Eagles uniform.
The NFL and other leagues have every right to do what they want with their property, but I do miss the variety we used to have. The Blitz series was a lot of fun.
Talking about football games. Player have the ball in the hand hmm.
I never got American football and especially not the games, but basketball is one of Americas greatest exports and the latest games are just as good.
NFL 2K5 will always be my favorite Football game.
All Pro Football 2K8 is still my favorite football game by far.
When you said "alternative sports games," my mind instantly went to Blitz the League.
Pat, you don't follow every team in college football. I'm pretty sure the only people that do that are the analysts. You follow your team, some of your conference, and the good teams in the country that year. On a given Saturday I will watch Alabama, the big or consequential matchups in the conference, and the big or consequential matchups in the country that week. Normally this is somewhere between 3 and 5 games a week.
Please get the facts straight
NFLPA wanted an exclusive license. It paid more.
EA paid the most they got it.
Yeah it's nuts. Pro Evo has been the outstanding football (soccer) game for the previous 3 iterations, with the most Sports Game awards and highest review scores compared to FIFA, but FIFA will always outsell FIFA because it has the presentation and the licenses.
Exclusivity is to the detriment of gaming and the games themselves, but that business and there's nothing we can do about it unfortunately.
Yeah, FIFA is the WEAKEST exclusive deal, by far. With both that and PES, which is better–as oppose to far worse, likes"Blitz: The League" and the PS3 "reboot" of NFL Blitz, complete with no hitting people after the play or out of bounds. I'd rather play Blitz 2002 on a PS2 with component out, even with the load and save times, because MIDWAY actually counts after-play hits and keeps the high score, for all sorts of cool high scores in categories like that. Blitz is FOR arcade-style, unrealistic, pound 'em after the play, play. Madden is its antithesis, and while Blitz is the most fun, Tecmo Bowl is the coolest, and Madden is the most drainingly-realistic, although I know they have put in some more "fun" modes. The thankfully-cancelled "NFL Street" just plain sucked, and it did so especially as an "alternative to Blitz."
It was always better to have Midway's arcade lineup available, especially when you just wanted to pick-up-and-play, in less than an hour, and I was so totally pissed, when EA bought the licenses to most–if not all–of the leagues, including the NCAA sports.
That's why I like PES so much. Its graphics are better, its play mechanics can be more advanced, its smoother, and it just plain beats FIFA, to me. I'd take PES 2014 over this year's FIFA.– and I essentially have, given that I play that one most and don't have/won't get any new FIFAs, that I can imagine. Thank god so few people (myself included) really care that much about whom the golfers are, or the tennis players (except Serena, of course, and Mac, when playing classic characters.
EA ruined sports games as much as they did their "reboot" if Battlefront, and will surely do, again, with all the microtransactions. It was all looking so good, until that all came out. I knew they'd fuck it up. I wish neither I nor my friends bought (different copies of) One-on-One or any of the EA games, if I'd known they'd go on to suck so hard, at so much — sports being the biggest genre.
If you have a PSP and like golf, get PangYa, however you can (digital or physical, but even physical is really cheap, without being on sale). PangYa is the best golf game, because magic!
FIFA soccer is one of the most popular video games in Europe
Screw all these modern football games. Im sticking with Tecmo Super Bowl.
NBA hangtime baby, those dunks were so awesome for that time period
Not many sports games because real gamers don't like sports. They are usually mutually exclusive interests.
What is the official game for toe wrestling?
I always wished in NBA jam that you could print out the pictures of your dunks when the took the little photos in game.
huh I was wondering what was happening to sport games good to know
Ya soccer is a nightmare to try and keep up with. You have so many quality leagues all across Europe and south america and MLS has really come into it's own now in the last few years. Then you have the champions league stuff that happens throughout every year. Throw on top of that the euro/world cup every other year and it's a mess.
Your best bet if you aren't content with just watching the big tournaments is still the English premier league (it's commentated in English and has a good chunk of the worlds best players spread throughout the clubs). Then just catch the big clubs from other leagues outside the UK whenever they pop up in the champions league.
There used to be tons of licensed sports series.
Interesting that Pat would mention Ken Griffey with the edit feature. All the players in the game were based on actual players. I used a Street and Smith magazine(There was no internet) to figure out the roster and I imputed in every player. After a while the battery quit holding the save. I did it 2 more times before I decided it wasn't worth the effort to have the roster when it would only hold for a few weeks after that.
RBI Baseball is absolute garbage.
That's why football games suck. Madden bought up the NFL exclusive back in 2005 because they couldn't handle the competition. It was really unfair sand the product sucks now.
Soccer is easy.
Take English football.
You have 4 leagues (you have non-league too but ignore that for this purpose).
Each league plays to find a winner – top is winner (and is promoted if they are in a lower league), bottom is relegated.
Then you have a League cup – every league team plays in it until there is a final winner.
Then there is usually a sponsored Cup.
Then you have an F.A. (Football Association) cup – same as above.
Then you have this (or something similar) for each country in Europe
(and probably world wide – although I believe Norway or Sweden's
promotion/relegation system is a thing of joy to behold).
Then you have the Champions League – the top 4 (or 5 but more later) of each top league in Europe plays each other in a league, then a knockout competition.
Then you have Europa League – 5 & 6 (or 6 & 7) position of each top league, plus teams that got knocked out early in the Champions League and F.A. Cup & League Cup winners go into this. League and then knockout. Winners go into next years Champions League (see above).
Then the Champions League winners play the Europa League winners in the Super Cup.
Then the winners of the Super Cup play in a group stage & knockout of the World Club Cup.
Then every few years you have the National Team European Championships – Qualification rounds, then League, then knockout.
Then every 4 years you have the National Team World Cup.
Then every other 4 years you have Olympic Soccer.
Thats not including the Coppa America or African Cup of Nations, Asia Cup etc…
See! Easy!
But seriously – its easier on my brain having been brought up on it than NFC/AFC N.S.E.W., Conference East, Conference West gubbins!
(before anyone says I know I mucked-up the competitions above, I couldn't be bothered looking them up!)
I believe licensing killed the MVP baseball series, and MVP Baseball 2005 might be my favorite sports game of all-time.